These trolls are just wrong. I think Subnormality’s challenging, ideosyncratic and incisive. It used to annoy me, until I realized that that was simply because it’s uncomfortably true at times, and I kept coming back to read it.
As for social problems – my friend disagrees with me on this, and sees you as primarily a misanthrope. I think I can detect a real love of people in your comic instead, underlying that massive disappointment of their being casually monstrous, being perverted by social trends and structures, and in general not living up to Standards.
Honestly, though? You rock. This is my favourite comic, bar none.
i like this comic, i really hate trolls, because they have no social life, they still live in there moms basement (even though they are 39), they are dumber than road kill (but don’t have the good decency to get hit by a car, probably because they don’t ever leave there basement layer), and have nothing better to do than go around bashing people who are better than they are (i.e. more talented, more inteligent, have friends, know what the sun is, have good higien, better looking, ext)
Very astute metaphor. I like that the people making the observation are actually enjoying themselves by being social, while the trolls are all by themselves, each one consumed with their own self-importance but ultimately removed from everyone else, alone in the cold vacuum of empty space.
The only difference is that stars actually produce light and heat, two elements essential to sustaining life. Trolls, as far as I can tell, produce nothing useful.
I guess they support the economy with their massive Hot Pockets and Jolt Cola purchases. That’s something, right?
Needs more Sphynx, though. Maybe the sequel could have her simply eating some trolls? Probably get indigestion, though, and we all know an immortal, flying, man-eating monster with an upset tummy is trouble.
That was brilliant, hahaha!
To counter-act such raucous comments, you’ve never done a strip I’ve not liked, and if people want to read a comic in which there is no subtlety to the comedy, there’s a million strips out there.
Your comic is different, and all the better for it; Captain Estar in particular was a masterpiece!
Well done, Winston. This is the first Subnormality strip in a long, LONG time that I’ve actually laughed at. You’re at your best being whimsical instead of trying to bash points into our brains with a piledriver like you’ve been doing for the past month.
I have now, for several months, been sneaking around and reading your comics and I must say that I haven’t seen any other comic giving me the same satisfaction as your comics do!
And now I felt compelled to leave a comment. Keep up the good work, your comics are in my opinion way above other comics in creative standard!
This is the first time I’ve read the comments, and I am disappointed if not surprised to hear you’ve been heavily trolled in the past. This is the best new webcomic I’ve seen in the past several years, period, and I read a lot of them. This strip in particular was the awesome. Thanks so much for Subnormality! Don’t change a thing.
Damn! I was looking forward to hairy armpits somewhere around the campfire! Seriously, sorry to hear that not everybody appreciates what you do (okay, not really — fuck ‘em, who cares?), but I’m somebody who does, and I’d like to take this opportunity to simply say “thank you”. So…
Inifectual peopl e are always eatin up with Envy… Pathetic and Sad, do you Wonder wha t there life Is like? When you present your work you give them poewer which they do not know how to use, all they know is “No” and “Not” and “never”. It is these people who populate hell/ IT is a hell they make forthemselves.
I guess that actual reasonable arguments are sort of pointless against trolls, so the use of caricature in this comic makes sense, but at the same time it seems a little too easy to group everyone that disagrees with you into the “TROLLS” category.
I’m sad to say I remember some of those troll comments, e.g. “This is the Internet, politeness and decency have no place here.” That particular troll also responded to the purely rhetorical question, “How’d you like it if we all came to your home and heckled you?” by threatening to shoot anyone who tried it. I wish I were making this up. I really were.
As for the Sphynx devouring the trolls in a sequel, I suspect she’d say “Come on, I may be a monster but I do have standards. Do you see me eating Ch*d Kr**g*r? Eww…let’s never speak of that again.”
I’ve heard the “public forum” bit before, but that was in response to people who called any criticism of them trolls. What’s more, this stuff was posted on a Livejournal community, not even their own journal. Heck, I’ve seen people wank on Livejournal, get mocked offsite, then head to the offsite mockery and try to get people to stop.
>Very astute metaphor. I like that the people making the observation are actually enjoying themselves by being social, while the trolls are all by themselves, each one consumed with their own self-importance but ultimately removed from everyone else, alone in the cold vacuum of empty space.
Well, there’s 4chan, a gaggle of idiots.
>The only difference is that stars actually produce light and heat, two elements essential to sustaining life. Trolls, as far as I can tell, produce nothing useful.
This is my first comment on your site, and I want to say first off that your comic is thoroughly enjoyable. I used to be a troll.
I wasn’t a very good troll, by any standard, so I doubt I can offer any reasonable insight into the mind of unrepentant, irredeemable trolls. However, I suppose I can tell you my story, for what ever worth it has.
I spent several years in my mother’s basement, and I espoused opinions, informed opinions, on sites that were not designed for such thoughts. I once spent 36 hours offending nearly every person on a Gothic Fashion and Nightlife forum on the subject of the Iraq war. I didn’t even mean for it to happen, but I have a stubborn streak, and when someone tells me that I am wrong, I tend to refute their assertion as humiliatingly as possible.
Any way, I met a wonderful woman, found a good job, and left my basement. I still comment on these forums, but I try to let things go. I have found better things to spend my time on.
I hope you continue to publish your comic for many years to come.
But I’m pretty sure each of those characters has a facebook account… and most of them have at some point done something stupid on the internets.
In the VERY least, the guy with the Rush t-shirt has at one point gotten in a flaming argument on-line about weather “driven” is in 14/8 or 29/16.
Anyway, you seem to be kind of concerned about people not liking your huge tl;dr’s and automatically assume that they’re lazy idiots that can’t really read. There IS a literary reason for not having huge walls of text in a comic and you SHOULD consider it. Even if I like those huge walls of text occasionally, you sometimes seem to be overdoing it, and actually making a point of making them EVEN bigger, as some kind of retaliation against all the people that have complained about it.
Think about it sometimes weather every character in the comic should go on a melancholy rant whenever they open their mouth, or, well, talk like a real person.
I would have really liked this one if it didn’t sound so much like you were trying to get back at someone. I mean, you kind of have to properly not care about somone to properly deride them.
And I’M not trolling. And the reason I’m spending all this time writing this like I have no life whatsoever, is that I REALLY like your comic, and would like to see you improve on those little faults within it. Also, having opinions doesn’t work if you have to preach them to us.
Xunngom: Hey, thanks! And I think you win the bet with your friend.
Carter: Ha, that hot pockets/jolt cola remark was classic.
Forrest: Thanks, and I agree that the strip had been less, well, fun of late (i’m looking in your direction, last week’s bout of overbearing trad satire).
thisismyname: For the record, my intent was of course NOT to label everyone who disagrees with me as a troll. People who disagree with me leave comments like yours which rationally express a viewpoint, and which i totally appreciate; trolls disagree with everything, and leave comments with the sole purpose of insulting others. My intent was to, using my own experience, say something about trolls in general. The recurring theme of trolls taking violent exception to anything resembling feminism is, I think, particularly telling.
Michael Ezra: You definitely know your Sphynxes.
The Scoot: In the grand scheme of things, you’re a pretty lousy troll, which is of course a pretty big compliment, so good on yer! Thanks for your story, and the kind words.
Danni: I know you’re not trolling, don’t worry (no troll would type so many words, or go on for sentence after sentence without making any hilarious spelling mistakes or grammatical errors). With regard to your suspicions, i’m “kind of concerned” about everything, really; i’m afraid that people won’t like almost every aspect of the comic, walls of text included. For the record, I don’t assume that everyone who doesn’t like the walls of text is an idiot who can’t read, but i DO assume that every idiot who can’t read won’t like the walls of text, so at least I keep them away, even if the swathes of text, as you discuss, are annoying sometimes. It’s worth it, in that regard. The bonus feature of the text is that it’s a scarecrow for idiots (not that that’s why i do it–it’s just the way i write sometimes). People who refuse to read won’t give my site a second look, and that’s perfect. But, again, not liking walls of text does not necessarily make one an idiot, and I definitely worry about annoying all the, uh, non-idiots out there. So you’re right in that I should consider not having so much text, and I do consider it in the same way that i tediously question everything else in my life to the point of insanity. There is introspection, fear not. I appreciate and will consider your remarks, anyway (that line about Rush was highly amusing, i might add). This is why i like people who disagree with me (as opposed to trolls).
Well played Winston.
I like walls of text. If they were a labour to read and mostly uninteresting then nobody would bother(and you’ve got a strong fan base, right?). There are enough quick-laugh, easy read comics out there it’s good to have a decent read once a week!
Also, those grotesque troll pictures are sure to give me nightmares.
Trolls are everywhere. Hell, I hate you myself sometimes
I’ll try resist going into a rant about the ending to Estar Goes to Heaven, on which I completely disagree due to the fact that people will give anything to erase a mistake, and even if they remember it, will leave it behind forever. Or going into a rant about you jabbing at some of my favorite movies in that comic with the lady filmed for a second, or your fucking bullshit fucking vegitarianism and fucking bullshit fucking atheism. Or my raging hypocrasy for going into a rant while promising not to rant.
But overall, I think you’re one of the best in comics today. You just have to learn to block it out, and ignore it. Since you work anonymously, that at least puts you ahead.
One day, you should do a published book, I would like to read your work away from a computer, as god intended us to read. I hope you keep doing this forever, and hopefully inspire many great future comicers.
Beautiful comment on the Gnatlife, Winston; I suspect it was made more for the benefit of the Camplife than as a condescension to the constellation: your fanbase will reflexively defend you against trolls, and we’ve seen the pointlessness of engaging the mindless. So I see this piece as your way of telling Us to let it go and enjoy the warmth instead of losing air to the inconsequential annoyances of the vacuum-dwellers.
Look forward to seeing a background cosmic catastrophe hidden in the future.
I used to do a lot of trolling. Still do on occasion. I can proudly say I conform to none of these stereotypes; I prefer my own particular brand of trolling by pre-emption. You learn the archetypes of the internet well enough and you can send somebody – sometimes even a whole forum – off on a tirade.
But I only troll talentless assholes, which is why I have nothing but praise for Subnormality.
My reply would be happy and clever, but I’m too busy panicking over whether I need to get to a beach- somewhere, somehow- to prove to myself I’m not a troll (or a not-as-bad-still-as-lonely obsessively polite anti-troll, like in that kids movie).
*cough* anyway, thanks for another great social comment, I have to agree with… someone who wrote above me, about this one being less blunt, or more whimsical than previous comics.
I loved the caricatures, the way they reflect the tone, the assumable personality of the trolls.
Originating from somewhat tamer regions of the internet, I still imagine most trolls as unhappy, spotty thirteen-year-old girls, while being profoundly thankful that I didn’t have much internet access back when I was thirteen, unhappy and spotty. However, some of the comments you got (especially the you-are-a-phony-feminazi-whose-self-respect-should-shatter-beneath-my-righteous-heel) are much too bitter and malevolent for such an innocent mental image.
In short: your visualisation skills, dear Mr Whore, are magnificent, regardless of the actual demographics of the trolls.
[I mean, you know, some are probably female, most probably don’t have snot flowing from every orifice, and so on – but that doesn’t matter, nor should you’ve tried to reflect their diversity, I think, because you did something better: you’ve captured the essence of how normal (happy, friendly, intelligent, beach-party) people see them.]
I have to say, in response to some of the criticisms of “grouping everyone who disagrees with you as a troll”…
The internet, especially comics on the internet, are a niche market. Winston advertises Virus Comix as “comics with too many words.” When I come here, I get exactly what I expect, and if I didn’t want to read that, I wouldn’t come here. But coming here, reading the comics, and then complaining that they have too many words (or that they’re feminazi bullshit or what have you) is trolling. It’s non-constructive criticism that makes me wonder why these people come here to read comics they know they’ll hate just so they can write mean-spirited comics.
You guys, by and large, are not trolling. But the folks Winston is talking about here, are.
Just my thoughts to Winston – I think if you pay attention to what people are thinking when you’re creating a comic – the comic will suffer, and your creativity will be stunted.. I would say, just be genuine, lighthearted with subtle heaviness and look for inspiration..you have talent so I don’t think you ever have to worry about the comic sucking, as long as the strip is inspired…
I mean to me, after reading these every week or so, I kind of see absurdist humor (which I think is when the strip is its funniest), sarcasm (also funny), cynicism (I’ll be honest – can come across as bitter), mixed with deep messages and observations about how the world is (I think that part should be as subtle and indirect as possible)
I would say for inspiration – take a trip to any city – nyc preferably (the village) – and just people watch. People are hilarious. Just avoid being cynical or overly critical of them – just find the benign absurdity – something that makes YOU crack up and try to translate that feeling into a strip…don’t spend too much time looking inwards..make the strip about something you find funny and everything else will be come easy…just take it easy man!
I like the caricatures. They’re varied, lively, and hilarious. In fact, I think the strip would be better if it was just the first panel. Because the whole star analogy? Really not as demeaning as it should be. People gaze lovingly at, spend lifetimes studying, and create mythology about the stars. Calling them insignificant specks just sounds silly, especially coming from the utopian beach party of painfully cool young bohemians you’ve chosen as your mouthpiece.
By the way, lampshade hanging your own metaphor is achingly poor writing. It’s like when a movie villain says “This isn’t like some movie.” It doesn’t add anything to the work, it just sounds smug.
And spending hours drawing a comic about how no one cares about the target of the comic creates an amusingly hypocritical paradox. I’m sure getting all these inane, spittle-flecked ad hominems can get your goat at times, but honestly, it’s better just not to acknowledge them. The people who respect you already know who the assholes are, there’s no need to devote a comic to them. Wallace is right: they’re beneath contempt.
Furthermore, the premise of your insult is flawed. “You’re wasting your time trying to insult me, while other people are having fun and being social.” That’s the gist of it, right? Depicting trolls as people who do NOTHING but insult people online, and teasing them for having no life, is a cliched fallacy not worth evoking. It takes all of twenty seconds to leave an insulting comment on someone’s blog/webcomic/whatever, so it’s doubtful that their whole sense of self-worth depends on how big an impact those comments make in the world. Plenty of trolls enjoy a beach party as much as the next guy, which doesn’t change the fact that they’re fucktards online.
Trolls aren’t losers in real life; they are ordinary people like you and I. It is because individuals are anonymous that brings out the worst in people.
The only crime you can attribute to trolls is that they live duplicitous lifestyles. Every troll piece you read is the product of a bored individual, nothing more. If you dislike them, ignore them. Don’t feed the trolls, internet 101.
I’m not so sure if Winston intended to imply that people who leave rude, unintelligent comments “have no life”, but in any case I’m appalled at all the comments describing their supposed personal life. You people are becoming worse “trolls” than the “trolls”. If you’re wrong and the “troll” is actually happy and fulfilled (just occasionally mean on the internet), then you’re being stupid; if you’re right and they really are miserable, then you’re being jerks.
I posted yesterday I don’t know why it didn’t submit, but the jist of it was – Winston – don’t focus on what people think of your comics – and try to avoid cynicism. Go people watching, find something that makes you laugh and try to translate that energy to a comic strip. I wouldn’t worry about the comic sucking – you have a good imagination and you can draw and write very well – just do what comes naturally.
Gnh. My brain is making angry buzzing noises because whilst I dislike cretinous trolls that insult people on spurious points, I’m also not the kind of guy that gets to sit around on warm beaches with various attractive people (I’d like to, but I have various disadvantages in looks and personality that make that possibility space fairly improbable. I’m hardwired to enjoy videogames over chats and dating).
I love your comics, Winston, but my brain doesn’t like you. I’d therefore like to apologise on behalf of my brain. Keep on with the good material!
Joe: Sorry, your comments were flagged as spam for no apparent reason (can’t figure out why) and i didn’t find them until today. Thanks for the words of support, at any rate, i totally appreciate it. Good advice.
Great comic until the ending, in my opinion – trouble was, the use of the party at the end dilutes the message you’re initially trying to put out – and in itself becomes an endorsement of the rather superficial, corporate values that you criticise in other comics.
While I’m sure it’s not intentional, it certainly seems to be favouring some generic pro-capitalist lifestyle – one which is both unsustainable and incredibly superficial. There are, after all, more kinds of people than ‘uncool internet saddo trolls’ and ‘awesome cool people who endorse all the hip modern brands and are effortlessly wealthy’.
Also forgot, unfortunately: Given the self-portrait at the top, female seems unlikely. Unless it’s a very fictional self-portrait, at least.
And to soften what I said above, as re-reading it has made me realise it sounds too critical: Still an excellent comic – I just think it’d have been improved by cutting off the ending, and fading to starfield instead – makes the point a bit more subtly, and avoids the unintentional message I pointed out above.
people who take the internet seriously are amusing, until you realise they’re only egomaniacs sitting alone in cheap condo in a mid-income neighborhood, “chatting” with others on a Saturday night, likely inside an online game. as you take them to a social setting with women, you see clearly they are just shut-in losers and dorks, and not worth time, conversation, or even recognition of them being alive. let’s kill them all. kill them all by throwing the duck sauce packets filling up your fridge from the leftover chineese takeout. throw those packets hard, my friends. they’ll break and cover those losers with sweet yellow duck sauce. then the ducks will come to eat that sweet duck sauce. they will try to fly away, but their feet will be stuck in the sauce. they’ll lift up the dorks and take them to that island with all the fat ugly people. once we have enough, it’ll sink into the ocean and that’ll be that. rock the vote!!!
Neato! I dig a lot of these comics. Some of your trolls look positively troll-like, and then there’s the one that looks like some kind of Grunge-Mantis hybrid. I’m pretty sure I also spied the angry red-headed guy.
I’d have to agree that the examples posted are more griefing than trolling. Trolling (at least, by it’s original definition from the usenet days) is a lot more subtle.
For example: a griefer would call you a nazi. A troll would praise your work whilst subtly alluding that the source of the praise is the fake poster’s unspecified comparison of the work to Mein Kampf.
sarah: You’d think i’d be tired of that video by now, but i’m not–it just keeps on being hilarious. Truly it should be placed in a time capsule or deep-space probe so that it can be preserved for all time.
Do people really not know how to criticise constructively these days? I got taught to do so in English class at SCHOOL, for something’s sake or other. If those are all real comments, I think I’ll just scoot over and clone my old English teacher. Evidently she is still needed.
You can’t help but feel sorry for the trolls, alone and left out so far away from the party… or is that just me?
Also, I’ve read your whole archive, and I honestly do not remember any “man-hating feminism”. Your most famous character is the Sphinx; perhaps they meant to type “man-eating feminism”?
The colors and style remind me of my first comics as a child, reading MAD and sneaking peeks at Robert Crumb’s work. You definately have your own style, I think it’s just the feeling I got from your comics, an excitement from the drawings, a thrill I can’t put into words.
What was the number of maximum troll references you can make before you give out that they are affecting you very badly… oh thats right … one, after one reference you are oficially someone who experiencies a lot of pain from trollers … sorry
Exceptional, as usual. And, sadly, painfully true.
There are far too many boards where “free speech” is valued above all else, so much so that you wind up losing valued insights from people with wisdom, courage, integrity, intellect, education. Sad, really, because in the end, everyone on the board loses because of a few people who refuse to control their mouths, (or keyboards, as it were.)
It simply showed some real comments from some rather pathetic individuals, contrasted with the fact that offline, there’s a real world out there, with people involved in real life, and making real connections. It showed that when it’s all said and done, trolls — lame, cowardly, self-absorbed, and worthless — are really not worth wasting a lot of time. Sorry you took it wrong.
Too bad. I see these cowards online all the time. Frankly, if I’d heard this kind of crap IRL, a lot of these folks would get a real time broken jaw.
The visual says it all; Trolls in their little individual bubbles, seperated from the rest of the world with only their own bile as company. The person they excoriated; on a beautiful midnight beach with many smiling friends, enjoying life and sharing happy moments. Feel sorry for them, they only dream of such joy.
I really like this one. Not only is there the obvious metaphor of the trolls, but there’s a less-obvious metaphor of all the people around the campfire. Each one is in their own world. Despite them being social, that doesn’t change that they really are alone (nobody lives anywhere but their own world, after all, due to the very nature of the body-mind relationship)-they just pull each other closer and form temporary clusters which are also isolated from the group. I mean, honestly, how often have you sat in a group of 10 or more people, and kept a group conversation going? It tends to split, pieces rejoin, people switch places, groups split, etc.
Way to go man.
Personally, I hate the people that pollute the forums with malice, despicable grammar, intolerance, and the like. I go to forums to have a conversation, not a screaming match.
I find your comic very entertaining. Not only is it intelligent and thought-provoking, but it is also funny and quite clever.
Thanks for putting actual quality content on the internet, rather than the standard.
I understand being upset with the trolls, but in most of the comments I have read so far I have seen nothing like these examples in the strip (I’m not saying they aren’t real, just that they aren’t that common). I do see people making well thought out constructive criticism and suggestions, and being called trolls by your fans. I have never seen you respond positively to any kind of criticism, it’s always defensive. I think you should ignore the trolls and stop associating them with the people who do have valid constructive comments about your strips.
I just found ur comix from cracked dot com i love them and think they are very smart social commentaries and i am glad that u are still staying on the positive side. keep up the funny work, and enjoy it ur great, thanks.
I feel like the comics pretense at morality is frustrating to me, not because I feel like you’re wrong, but because you are so close to being right.
Most of the thoughts and opinions expressed in this comic are reasonable, and well-thought-out(in my opinion, clearly of great value of you). It just feels like there’s no presentation to set it apart from all the other boards for people’s uninformed opinions. The comic sometimes feels like a very poorly disguised way to hammer down a lesson for the readers, one that most of them are entirely unwilling to learn under this context, and the rest of which already agree with you.
It seems pointless and petty to imagine up some stupid looking faces to say things that you didn’t find reasonable upon examination. You have belittled another group of people for not agreeing with you, and it seems like a terrible way to handle trolls, of all things, and certainly a terrible way to lay claim to the moral high ground.
The fact that you felt compelled to draw up some random insult towards those some find offensive sort of defeats the Aesop you’re trying to hammer into the reader’s skulls.
Dear god, I’m rambling into a comment box that nobody is ever going to read, about things you probably don’t really care enough about.
I figure while I’m wasting my time doing this, I might as well ruin my credibility for everyone who reads the end first:
Trolling is an art. It’s an undesirable one for many, but an art nonetheless.
Final addendum: No I am not attempting to troll anybody, I am sincerely attempting to express my thoughts pointlessly about this comic that I shouldn’t care quite so much about.
you know, id respect your comment a lot more if it wasn’t for half of it being “no offense”. Mostly because it seems the idea of communication over the internet is a valued part of society, trolls and all. but i think you missed the point, not the idea but who it was being aimed towards.
actually before that, the faces are more likely the faces we as the… trolled?, see these people. In fact it probably isn’t a comic of hatred towards trolls, but probably that there are bigger things then just being right over the internet anonymously. Nice dodge of the fire btw, saying nothing matters but here it is anyways. I think you missed your own point.
a year late, but ok haha. You know, ironically i think you got trolled.
I’m having a hard time getting at what you’re saying, but here goes…
The way the comic explicitly belittles the trolls makes it seem obvious that the intent was a shot at them.
I have no idea where you think I’m conveying a sense of “no offense,” it all seemed pretty genuine and unmitigated to me, both now and then.
I’m not here to argue with you on the issue of what constitutes “examination”. The principle is that making an obnoxious and spiteful comment by means of a comic page is not a plausibly appropriate response to obnoxious and spiteful commentary by means of text.
Hey, “another person with opinions”, I totally get what you’re trying to say.
I can tell it makes you anxious to say something that might be taken as siding with the “bad guys”, but kudos for stating your opinion.
I feel like it’s interesting, the points you’re making, but ultimately should be reserved for more focus, specified place to discuss such matters. I don’t know where, but a comments box doesn’t seem to fit. If you were just getting it off your chest and don’t expect anyone to read it, I guess that’s fine too.
Come to think of it, I don’t think you’re going to read this, either. Meh. Whatever.
Hey, thanks for responding.
I didn’t actually expect anyone to reply, and it’s nice to see that it incited a polite response, as opposed to some wave of trollage.
I suppose my comment is just too far into the fractal that is this corner of the internet, there is no reason for anybody to look at it, besides randomly stumbling upon it on your way to something else.
I find it funny that that comment is one of the few things I’m still genuinely proud of having written after so many months. It’s just so easy to write something mindless and stupid, I guess, that nothing I do stands out past the particular moment it took place in.
Heh, this is practically my personal biography by this point. Hosted with full anonymity, and without apparent notice by it’s keeper.
I’ve really beena hopeless romantic, haven’t I? How long ago was this…
Almost a year on this one, nearly two years on the one prior…
Those were some long two years. It occurs to me that all the living I’ve done for two years was between those dates. A bit self-evident, but still seemingly profound.
It looks like I’m still a hopeless romantic, eh?
Do people really troll you THAT much?
Tha’s a bit silly, no? I mean, if they think your such a “femnazi”, they have the choice to either: A) Feck off, B)Not read the damn thing, or C)Seriously.. Just feck off..
I don’t mean to say I’ve ALWAYS agreed with your point, but never should a person be so little as to troll an ARTIST(in one of the only remaining fields no less…) for expressing their opinion, it’s both stupid and will get them nowhere..
Do you think they feel better about themselves after?
It’s definitely an effective image, but it’s always self-defeating to commit one’s attention, effort, focus, and skill to chest-beating over how little attention you’re paying to something. It’s like going deep-sea diving to show how little you care about water.
I don’t think I’ve ever been moved by comics before. Your stuff makes my day every day since I came across them. So, uh, thanks! I hope you keep doing more. The world is never short on things to point out, and you’ve got a gift. (and I’m sure you get told this all the time, but, totally worth all the reading)
The best part of this particular comic? The amount of trolls commenting on it. Another spectacular job done well. I must say, you are no pseudo-intellectual. You are the real deal. I love it. Keep it up. BTW, are you syndicated or making money off of this? Because you should be. :)
I don’t know , I tend to enjoy this strip when it’s not too preachy, the reason I’m here going through the backlogs is because I find it witty and occasionally though-provoking. But then, there are some statements made by ‘trolls’ that don’t sound that trollish to me. You can’t just take any negative criticism and discount it as people angrily venting at you being so fucking right. If anything, that’s my only problem with this series, is you/the author seem to have the same basic problem as most people when it comes to assuming you’re right. And of course the thinly veiled condescension most city-dwellers have, but then that might just be jealousy because I want to get back to the city but can’t due to financial problems…
I love this web comic. I’ve been reading – most of it – backwards for several hours now, as well as bits and pieces every few weeks or so. I’m so glad Cracked posts some of your pages and I hope no negativity ever discourages you.
Man, each one of those felt a little too real. Did you pull them out of your own comments section? Ugh. I had to stop reading those sections years ago because it just hurts. Same reason I had to turn off the television. It makes me feel weird. Like I’m hungover and anxious.
Having dissenting opinions or just being mean on the internet isn’t trolling. Claiming it is would be succumbing to the “WE’RE SO HIP CAUSE WE GOT INTERNET TOO” bandwagon that too many people are falling victim to recently. And as far as drawing the people in such unflattering manners, that merely shows immaturity.
Well, if all internet criticism was as reasonably-phased as yours there’d be no problem. So cheers on that one, anyway. And yes, i was certainly less mature back when i made this, but in my defense i think i was going for a the-people-are-as-ugly-as-their-words kinda thing. I like it.
That first part doesn’t even make sense. And you side with the assholes, then call him the immature one? Almost none of those comments are mere dissent, and I think you know that. If people aren’t trolling when they use the term “feminazi” or making up lies about how men have it so hard…they’re one of Rush Limbaugh’s ditto-heads, which is a lot worse.